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If you are an unhappy accountant at one of the Big 4 or another big accounting firm, Angry Accountants is the place for you. Non-partner accountants at the big accounting firms have been exploited for decades: long hours, high stress, infliction of emotional and physical distress, low low compensation, and no overtime pay. Angry Accountants is a place to post information about salaries, benefits, working conditions, policies, required hours, and any other information you have about your firm and your position that makes you unhappy. Send the information to us at AngryAccountants@gmail.com and, if appropriate, will write a post about it and protect your anonymity.

What's the purpose of Angry Accountants? It is not just a forum to vent your frustrations. While being able to vent is a healthy benefit, the primary purpose of Angry Accountants is to quickly disseminate information about what is going on at the big accounting firms to the accountant masses around the nation and around the world. Why? Information is power. Information like that shared on Angry Accountants is why your friends who went to law school are making four times as much as you at big law firms while working the same hours.

Let's back up a decade or two. In the mid-1990s, angry associates at big law firms, who like accountants had been oppressed and exploited by firm partners, started venting their frustrations on the internet. Those sites quickly gained popularity, and large amounts of information regarding salaries, hiring practices, etc., normally kept confidential by big law firms, became public knowledge. Read about it HERE. The publication of this information forced big law firms to take steps to appease their associates, for fear if they offended the law firm associate masses, they would lose the ability to compete with other big law firms to recruit the best and the brightest attorneys. The result? Law firm associate salaries and benefits began to sky rocket until they leveled out at a the much higher fair market value.

If you feel like you are not being compensated at fair market value for your services, write about it here anonymously or send it to us at AngryAccounts@gmail.com. Then, sit back and wait as the economics of an increase in information in the marketplace work in your favor to force the big accounting firms to pay fair market value.

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    2. Telephone Numbers:……….
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    6. Purpose Of Loan………….
    7. country…………………
    8. phone…………………..
    9. occupation………………
    10.age/sex…………………
    11.Monthly Income…………..
    12.Email……………..

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